Monday, September 3, 2012

Jake Butcher Mansion - the Offer

So you have your energy partners lined up and you know the maintenance, utilities, furnishings and upkeep on the house are taken care of with zero money out of your pocket. Now comes the hard part: getting the house at the right price.

In order for this to have a shot in hell at working, you have to get the house at the right price. You have to be supremely confident going into the meeting with the bank that you know absolutely everything there is to know about the house, the bank, the person you're meeting with, the decision makers and what's in it for them.

Here is what I know and, more importantly, what I need the bank to understand:

* The Butcher Mansion has missing and crumbling columns

* The house is divided into 5 tacky condominiums

* There is an overwhelming stench of mildew and visible mold throughout the house - possible spots of black mold developing

* There's dry rot on windows, columns, fascias and soffets

* There are missing walls and missing sheetrock

* There are missing floors and missing flooring

* The quality and craftsmanship throughout the house is sub-par and decades behind trend

* The landscape is neglected

* The size of the house is completely impractical for today’s residential buyer and the Homeowner's Association will only allow this home to be sold as a single family residence (no businesses, boarding houses, assisted living, etc)

* Due to the current condition of the home, the house will not appraise at $1.2 million

* Any renovation plans must be approved by the HOA and can take 30 days for a hearing

* A major structural and cosmetic overhaul will come in between $2,860,000 to $3,250,000

* Future appraisal will not support the costs of the overhaul therefore your typical buyer will not be able to re-sale the property.

* The necessary structural and cosmetic overhaul will raise property taxes $20,000

* Because the land has been subdivided there is a lack of privacy and view

* The Close proximity to Bull Run coal ash steam plant is a worry with the TVA coal ash spill in Harriman and the fire at Bull Run last year

* The house is miles away from any restaurants, shopping, business or cultural activities

* The neighboring homes represent a lower economic area

* The median household income for the area is $35K

* Clinton has a higher tax rate than more desirable Farragut

* As of April 2012 there were 10 meth lab quarantines in Clinton

* There were 0 meth lab quarantines in Farragut

* The current state of $90,000 in annual utilities is cost prohibitive to today's buyer.

In summary: The house is too big, the location is bad, the cost to repair and maintain is prohibitive, the Homeowner's Association presents numerous obstacles, financing on this home has resulted in foreclosure with every single buyer. And every day the house sits, it drains the funds of commercial bank, liens are piling up from the Homeowner's Association and commercial bank's board of directors look like idiots. They look like idiots for taking on this loan in the first place. They look like idiots for thinking they're going to get $1.2 million in a sale. And they look like idiots for letting an iconic landmark fall into such disrepair that it could become condemned and torn down.

Whirlwind is Commerical Bank's Titanic and it's taking on water fast.

· Attorney fees

· Staff salary (for those working the Whirlwind file)

· Interest lost

· Revenue lost

· Further depletion of Commercial Bank’s cash reserves

· Loss of future good loans because money is tied up in Whirlwind

· Liens attached to the property for negligent maintenance and upkeep. Liens bring more attorney fees and costs to clear title

· Repairs continue to increase as property slips into further decline. Failure to repair Whirlwind results in lawsuit from HOA

· Butcher lake, the pool, the tennis courts, the house are all an attractive nuisance—further lawsuits waiting to happen

· An empty house of this notoriety invites vandals, scrappers, trespassers and squatters. Security issues result in yet another HOA lawsuit

· A vacant house is a beacon for drugs and illegal activities. Cost to clean a meth house of this size will run between $400,000 to $600,000 and the stigma never goes away. More lawsuits from HOA.

When I went into this meeting I had 3" thick notebooks full of every recorded document on this house dating back to when the Butcher's built the house. I had all my research on comparable properties in that price range, the costs to fix the house, the potential problems with the house and Commercial Bank's financials.

My research revealed that as of December 2011, Commercial Bank had below normal sustainable profitability, very questionable asset quality, mid-range capitalization and below normal liquidity. A Return on Invest of at least 1.0% is deemed satisfactory in accordance with banking industry standards and Commercial Bank came in at 0.9%. At the end of 2011, Commercial Bank was performing substantially below average and the FDIC had them on their radar.

The family-owned bank is hemorrhaging and someone needs to stop the bleeding.

Bankers are typically not a creative group of people and when there's a board of directors involved in the decision making process, it's no easy feat to get the signatures on the line.

I met the Realtor at the bank (I only work with listing agents because commissions are negotiable and I'll have a tougher time getting a deal if there's two commissions on the line).

We were lead into the conference room which was, of course, ridiculously ornate.

There was a long conference table for about 30 people. I was told the bank representative was on the phone and would be with me momentarily. (Classic power move). I asked the Realtor to step out for a moment because I wanted to talk to the guy before we got to the contract. She did and I took my seat at the head of the conference table across the room so I was the first thing he saw when he walked in. I was at the head of the table and had pulled out a chair to the side of me for him. I would be leading this meeting.

After 15 minutes he came in, visibly thrown by my position in the room. Which is good, I needed him to be uncomfortable with his role in this negotiation.

Before I got to the money I went over everything I had on the house and why he would never get $1.2 million for it nor would he get $400,000 (the bank's reserve bid at the foreclosure auction). In fact, he wouldn't even get the value of the land the house sits on because the cost to tear down the house would be expensive, time consuming and pointless - the views and the HOA restrictions just aren't worth it.

He leaned back in his chair and crossed his arms. The man was pissed.

During our conversation I learned that he had never been out to the house, was not familiar with the area, and had no idea that his lawyers were working on property tax issues with the house that had actually been taken care of five years ago. I provided him the paperwork.

I then explained to him that I did not fly out from Colorado to present him with an offer to buy the Butcher place. I flew out to provide him an exit strategy.

When you're on the Titanic and the boat is sinking, you do not stay on the boat because you spent too much money for the trip, you get off the damn boat.

The bank is hemorrhaging, the house is not going to sell. I told him:

· I accept the property in as-is condition (assuming clear title is provided)

· I'm paying cash, waiving the mortgage contingency

· I'm paying my own closing costs

· I do not need an appraisal

· I do not require a survey

· I do not request funds in escrow

· I waive any geological report

· I waive any pest inspection contingency

· I waive any home inspection contingency

· I waive any repair contingency

· I waive a home warranty

· I do not have a problem with the HOA restrictions

· I can offer a quick close

My offer is $10.

He was not prepared for that.

I pulled out the articles I had collected of banks in Detroit selling off homes for $10 to get the financial drain off their books and banks in Cleveland paying borrowers $35,000 to sell their home so the banks could get the FDIC off their back.

Commercial bank does not know the plan I had in mind for the Butcher Mansion. I knew the house wasn't going to sell and I knew they weren't going to accept my exit strategy right away.

Commercial Bank is losing ridiculous amounts of money every day with Whirlwind.They have the opportunity to be involved in what could be the single greatest thing to happen to East Tennessee in decades - bringing Oak Ridge, Clinton and the surrounding area to the forefront in renewable clean energy. Commercial Bank would be instrumental in bringing jobs to the area, therefore new home buyers, new business loans, more revenue coming in.

But in order for that to happen they have to get off the sinking ship. So far, they haven't been willing to do that.

17 comments:

  1. You wasted all that time for $10?

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  2. The developer who renovated Whirlwind into condos died in car accident 10-11 years ago. His son inherited the property and had the best intentions to maintain Whirlwind. The property was too over whelming for him to manage.

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  3. The developer's car accident happened on I-40. He was talking on his cell phone when he crashed his vehicle and died. I know this because I am a family friend.

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  4. I'm not sure who you're referring to. I know there were originally 3 developers on the Whirlwind subdivision project but then Charlie Hicks became the sole developer and was signing documents on the place until April, 2010. He was in court in September 2011 for a bankruptcy hearing. He has a new company in Oak Ridge and has been a member of the Chamber since 2011.

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  9. Why don't they use the house as a location to show people what is left because people are still interested in seeing it charge them admission Foley using Mission money to fix the place back up and use it as a invent place for Knoxville don't understand why this beautiful property is just falling into disrepair yes cost are unfortunately High but so are hotels and stuff like that why don't they renovate this place and turn it into a resort by slowly building Revenue by showing it four charged mission

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  10. For instance Waverly Hills in Louisville Kentucky with solely restored by tours and holding special events I'm sure people would still use the ground as wedding venues and stuff like that there are even rooms in the mansion that still could be used as wedding venues fully restored just my idea if anybody takes it good luck with it it's a shame to see such a beautiful place go to waste

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  11. Nether I don't have a ton of them use the house is a haunted house during Halloween collect money use it as a haunted hotel collect money start rebuilding what still exist if anybody's interested in ideals let me know you could even be a country club at a golf course there are so many things like an offset the utility cost but solar lighting and solar paneling in the ideal of Apartments bad idea the ideal of a venue awesome anybody wants to email me my email address is hey Spence 78 at gmail.com just a broke grad student here but would love to figure out something to help somebody get the ball rolling and what looks like The Money Pit house funny the year it got repossessed is the same year Money Pit came out the movie Tom Hanks

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  12. Also quit letting people go in without charging a fee if you collect some volunteers that went to work on the property to see it restored that's another ideal a lot of people would like to see this place or stored if for nothing to tell the Knoxville story of what happened James butcher story what fake money can buy you 20 years in prison

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  13. Also the HOA fees when they rather and empty vacant House of people are using to do bad stuff in sit there or an active site ready to be fully restored maybe make a documentary about it use the funds to restore the house show pictures of the house before it was abandoned and after start asking for money on restore the mansion with loving care it would make an awesome Country Club Hotel Golf Course or Resort like I said you can offset the cost of running the place by putting solar panels in and a water system that runs off of Rainwater so many things that could be done why don't people think with their heads instead they sit there and let something rot

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  14. The only thing that has kept that house in decent shape is the tin roof thank God for the tin roof maybe somebody will listened to somebody that deals hang it there has together I just would like to say that I've seen a lot of projects the people say can't be done be done with just a little know how I was born cerebal palsy I have never let anything get in my way and this case I am a broke college student with plenty ideals his property instead of seeing it on YouTube of people walking through and vandalizing ant why don't you guys do something about it read my Apple read my ideals if anybody still reads this blog get back to me and at least let me know if you think they're stupid or they have any Merit at all I don't care about taking any credit for any idea I would just like to see the place restored why can it be made into what a Clinton Tennessee's hot spots for tourist there are plenty of places that Jerry income by misfortune tell the story I'm sure people would flock to see it quit letting them see it on YouTube course it's going to take a little pain to get the devil signs off by the way all that visible on YouTube it's a shame that people have so many great ideas for brand new hotels and brand new things but they can't use existing building with history that sits on a beautiful piece of land and make it into either at home again or something like a landmark of Tennessee telling the story of what happened

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